Host Reed Galen is joined by David Pepper, the former chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party and author of the new book, Laboratories of Autocracy: A Wake-Up Call from Behind the Lines. They discuss how the greatest threat to American democracy isn\u2019t the antics of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, or Jim Jordan\u2026and it\u2019s not even Donald Trump\u2019s \u201cBig Lie\u201d\u2026it\u2019s the anonymous, often corrupt politicians in statehouses across the country (and the levers of power which they abuse) that pose the greatest dangers to our democracy. Be sure to pick up Laboratories of Autocracy at your favorite book retailer.\n\n \nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices