USC Senior Fellow, Joel Hay PhD, has authored more than 600 peer-reviewed scientific articles & reports on health economics, outcomes research and epidemiology. He sat down with Del for an eye-opening, no holds barred conversation about why he thinks the lockdown is \u201cutter nonsense\u201d and fears the gov\u2019t will \u201cdouble down on this horrible strategy\u201d to avoid admitting they were wrong.