The Art of Noticing and Appreciating Our Dizzying World

Published: March 3, 2023, 10 a.m.

b'\\u201cPoetry is the attempt to understand fully what is real, what is present, what is imaginable, what is feelable, and how can I loosen the grip of what I already know to find some new, changed relationship,\\u201d the poet Jane Hirshfield tells me. Through poetry, she says, \\u201cI know something new and I have been changed.\\u201d\\n\\nHirshfield is the award-winning author of many books of poetry and two illuminating essay collections about what poetry does to us and in the world: \\u201cNine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry\\u201d and \\u201cTen Windows: How Great Poems Transform the World.\\u201d Her book \\u201cLedger\\u201d is one I gift to people most often. Hirshfield\\u2019s true talent as a poet is her singular ability to imbue the ordinary, the invisible, the forgotten with a sense of majesty and wonder. Her work is littered with lines that force you to stop, to slow down, to notice what you might have missed or overlooked.\\n\\nHirshfield\\u2019s work also raises some profound questions: What does it mean to grapple with our complicity in the climate crisis? Where does the self end and the rest of the world begin? How do we learn to desire what we previously dreaded or despised?\\n\\nThis is one of those conversations that is hard to describe in words. But it was truly a delight for me to be a part of. And I think you\\u2019ll enjoy it too.\\n\\nMentioned:\\n\\nThe Iliad by Homer\\n\\nThe Odyssey by Homer\\n\\nGilgamesh\\n\\nThe Beauty by Jane Hirshfield\\n\\nHow Emotions Are Made by Lisa Feldman Barrett\\n\\nFlow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi\\n\\nLiving with a Wild God by Barbara Ehrenreich\\n\\nThe Two Cultures and the Scientific Revolution by C.P. Snow\\n\\nBook recommendations:\\n\\nMetaphors We Live By by George Lakoff and Mark Johnson\\n\\nLess Than One by Joseph Brodsky\\n\\nThe Fire Next Time by James Baldwin\\n\\nThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.\\n\\nYou can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of \\u201cThe Ezra Klein Show\\u201d at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.\\n\\n\\u201cThe Ezra Klein Show\\u201d is produced by Emefa Agawu, Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld, Rog\\xe9 Karma and Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair. Mixing by Sonia Herrero. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Carol Sabouraud and Kristina Samulewski.'