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Today, we\u2019re doing something a little different. Instead of a normal interview, we wanted to let you in on a special round table discussion I recently had with my fellow Opinion Audio hosts: Jane Coaston of \u201cThe Argument\u201d and Kara Swisher of \u201cSway.\u201d We discuss California\u2019s recall election, the future of the Republican Party, the recent \u201cFacebook Files\u201d revelations, the case for and against breaking up Big Tech, why so many Americans distrust the media and much more. \n\nSo enjoy! And remember to subscribe to \u201cSway\u201d and \u201cThe Argument\u201d wherever you get your podcasts.\n\n\nMentioned: \n\n\u201cGavin Newsom Is Much More Than the Lesser of Two Evils\u201d by Ezra Klein\n\n\u201cHow California conservatives became the intellectual engine of Trumpism\u201d by Jane Coaston \n\n\u201cThe Facebook Files\u201d\n\n Book recommendations: \n\nThe Fall of Berlin 1945 by Anthony Beevor\n\nFuzz by Mary Roach\n\n\nThis is Your Mind On Plants by Michael Pollan\n\nThe Grace of Kings by Ken Liu\n\nYou can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.\n\nThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.\n\n\u201cThe Ezra Klein Show\u201d is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rog\xe9 Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld, audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.