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In the aftermath of the Capitol attack, the polling firm Echelon Insights decided to ask voters a simple question: Do they think the goal of politics is more about \u201cenacting good public policy\u201d or \u201censuring the country\u2019s survival as we know it?\u201d\n\nOnly 25 percent of Republicans said politics is about policy; nearly half said it\u2019s about survival. That\u2019s today\u2019s Republican Party in a nutshell.\n\nI\u2019ve had some recent conversations with Republicans who are trying to reform their party, to push it back toward policy and, in some cases, reality. But, for now, we\u2019re governing with the Republican Party we have, not the Republican Party many want. So what does that Republican Party, the real Republican Party, believe?\n\nKristen Soltis Anderson is a Republican pollster, host of Sirius XM\u2019s \u201cThe Trendline,\u201d and co-founder of Echelon Insights. She has done some of the most in-depth surveys of Republican voters to date: the issues that animate them, the traits they look for in presidential candidates, how they consume information, their faith in Donald Trump and much more. So I asked her about what today\u2019s Republicans believe, and what that reveals about where the party is going next.\n\nRecommendations: \n\n"Grand New Party" by Ross Douthat and Reihan Salam\n\n"Resonate" by Nancy Duarte\n\n\u201cGenerations Status and Party Identification, A Theory of Operant Conditioning\u201d by Keith Billingsley and Clyde Tucker\n\n"Dragons Love Tacos" by Adam Rubin\n\nYou can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein.\n\nThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.\n\n\u201cThe Ezra Klein Show\u201d is produced by Rog\xe9 Karma and Jeff Geld; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld.