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b'\\u201cThere is definitely a contest for the future of the center right,\\u201d says Reihan Salam, the president of the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank. In his telling, one side in this contest is \\u201cdeeply pessimistic about the prospect of a diversifying America, explicitly anti-urban and increasingly willing to embrace redistribution and centralized power,\\u201d more so than conservatism before Donald Trump. This populist right has received a lot of attention since Trump\\u2019s election, and we\\u2019ve done other shows to try to understand it.\\n\\nBut Salam is advancing a very different set of ideas with a very different theory of the electorate. He\\u2019s identified what he sees as a core fissure between the progressive elites who run the Democratic Party and the working-class voters of color who make up a large part of its base \\u2014 particularly on issues of race and gender. And he believes that by putting forward an \\u201curban conservative\\u201d agenda centered on education, housing and public safety, Republicans can exploit those internal cleavages and begin to win over demographics that have been central to the Democratic coalition.\\n\\nSo for the final episode in our \\u201cThe Rising Right\\u201d series, I wanted to use Salam\\u2019s thoughts to explore this alternate path for the American right. We discuss why the Republican Party has turned against major cities, whether antiracism is the right framework for addressing racial inequality, why he believes that children of Latino and Asian immigrants could become a core G.O.P. constituency, the difference between antiracism and \\u201cantiracialism,\\u201d the tactics of the anti-critical-race-theory movement, why he thinks there\\u2019s been an \\u201covercorrection\\u201d on the right in favor of state power and redistribution, what a supply-side conservatism beyond just tax cuts could look like, why he believes we could be entering an era of \\u201cfiscal constraints\\u201d that could radically reshape policymaking on both the left and right and more.\\n\\nMentioned:\\n\\n\\u201cThe Anti-C.R.T. Movement and a Vision For a New Right Wing\\u201d by Jay Caspian Kang\\n\\n\\u201cAmerica Needs Anti-Racialism\\u201d by Reihan Salam\\n\\n\\u201cIbram X. Kendi on What Conservatives \\u2014 and Liberals \\u2014 Get Wrong About Antiracism\\u201d by The Ezra Klein Show\\n\\n\\u201cPrison-Gang Politics\\u201d by Christopher F. Rufo\\n\\nBook recommendations:\\n\\nClassified by David E. Bernstein\\n\\nCriminal (In)Justice by Rafael A. Mangual\\n\\nSir Vidia\\u2019s Shadow by Paul Theroux\\n\\nThe Strategy of Denial by Elbridge A. Colby\\n\\nThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.\\n\\nYou can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of \\u201cThe Ezra Klein Show\\u201d at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.\\n\\n\\u201cThe Ezra Klein Show\\u201d is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rog\\xe9 Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu and Mary Marge Locker; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing and engineering by Jeff Geld; audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi. Special thanks to Kristin Lin and Kristina Samulewski.'