b'Doing the holidays and divorce \\u2014 at the best of times \\u2014 can be super complicated. Co-parenting during the holidays during a pandemic? What a shitshow, amiright? Well, it doesn\\u2019t have to be. This week, Michelle Dempsey-Multack joins me to offer tips and advice on how to handle the holidays during this crazy time. Michelle is a writer, coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS\\xae), and host of the Moms Moving On Podcast.\\xa0\\nThere is no guidebook for parenting during a pandemic. But through our conversation, we hope you find some insight, inspiration, and tips to help you move through the upcoming season with confidence and grace.\\xa0\\nShow Highlights\\n\\nThe shift in the divorce and co-parenting space and the role COVID-19 plays. (3:35)\\n\\nHow to have an uncomfortable conversation that is non-threatening about making the holidays safe for your children. (8:49)\\n\\nDistinguish between the ex-partner who will balk about everything vs the ex-partner who is truthly concerned because they deem your actions as reckless. (12:06)\\n\\nUncomfortable conversations lead to comfortable situations. (14:16)\\n\\nYou can\\u2019t tell COVID to go away because it would make divorce easier. But COVID is forcing new divorcees to slow down post-divorce. (15:33)\\n\\nSome tips on how to handle the holidays as co-parents, including how to share or split holidays. (24:48)\\n\\nMake your goal about you, moving on in a healthy way and doing what is best for your children. (34:57)\\n\\nCreating new holidays and traditions for yourself, post-divorce. (35:10)\\n\\nLearn More About Michelle Dempsey:\\nMichelle Dempsey-Multack is a writer, coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS\\xae) and host of the Moms Moving On Podcast. As a divorced, co-parenting, and remarried mother, nothing makes Michelle happier than being able to guide other women as they move on through the divorce process, and helping them turn their divorce lemons into lemonade - just like she did. A native New Yorker, Michelle now resides in Miami with her husband, Spencer, and each of their daughters, Bella and Jolie.\\xa0\\nResources & Links:\\nMichelle\\u2019s website\\nMichelle on Instagram\\nMichelle on Facebook\\nMom\\u2019s Moving On Podcast\\nKate Anthony on Instagram\\n The Ultimate Divorce Survival Guide\\n Should I Stay or Should I Go Facebook Group\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices'