BONUS: From Trump's desperation to Drake's 'blackness,' Joe Budden opens up in candid interview

Published: Feb. 2, 2020, 3 p.m.

In this extensive interview, rapper and new media entrepreneur Joe Budden talks to MSNBC\u2019s Ari Melber about music, politics, race, the danger of secrets and the power of therapy and personal growth. Budden responds to several video clips, ranging from his early days in hip hop to greatest hits from his popular music show \u201cThe Joe Budden Podcast.\u201d Melber and Budden also discuss Drake\u2019s musical career, his verse in \u201cSicko Mode\u201d about Kanye West and other recent comments; Donald Trump\u2019s history as a sometime hip hop socialite and frequently name-checked character in songs; the evolving meaning of the term \u201cFor The Culture,\u201d and whether Budden\u2019s role in hi hop now focuses more on being a rapper or a media interviewer.