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Published: June 10, 2021, 5:52 p.m.

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Tao Ruspoli is a dear friend of mine and one of the most creative, magical people I know. He makes films, music, photographs, festivals ... worlds. We had this conversation in the music studio (former garage) at his compound near Joshua Tree, CA. Tao\'s podcast is called Being in the World.

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Intro music: \\u201cBrightside of the Sun,\\u201d by Basin and Range; "A Thought is Just a Passing Train" by John Moreland;\\xa0"Smoke Alarm," by Carsie Blanton.\\xa0

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