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Published: Oct. 7, 2020, 6:38 p.m.

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Jake and Belinda are close friends of mine and have been married to each other since before either of them can remember. This is what happens when the three of us hang out WITHOUT wine.

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Intro music: \\u201cBrightside of the Sun,\\u201d by Basin and Range; "Making Do," by Lake Street Dive; "Smoke Alarm," by Carsie Blanton.

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