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Published: July 18, 2020, 8:06 p.m.

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I guess when you grow up surfing waves taller than the trees that tower over your house, you learn to be careful. Kyle is one of the most deliberate, thoughtful, open-hearted dudes I know. He makes as many mistakes as the rest of us, but he squeezes every possible lesson from each one of them. Check out his podcast here, follow his adventures on Instagram here.

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Intro music: \\u201cBrightside of the Sun,\\u201d by Basin and Range; "Your Wicked Ways" by The Mighty Olas; "Suffer Well," by Simon van Gend Band; \\u201cSmoke Alarm,\\u201d by Carsie Blanton.

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