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Published: July 22, 2019, 7 a.m.

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Derrick Jensen\\xa0is a coauthor of\\xa0Deep Green Resistance, and the author of\\xa0Endgame,\\xa0The Culture of Make Believe,\\xa0A Language Older than Words, and many other books. He was named one of Utne Reader\\u2019s \\u201c50 Visionaries Who Are Changing Your World\\u201d and won the\\xa0Eric Hoffer Award\\xa0in 2008. We discuss animal communication, the trajectory of history, and the dangers of comfort.

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