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Published: April 1, 2019, 7:53 p.m.

This is a somewhat chaotic conversation involving Kyle Thiermann (big wave surfer), Mark Healey (surfing legend), Ben Greenfield (fitness guru), and a little bit of me (flabby imposter). It was recorded on the island of Molokai, Hawaii, at the end of a week-long hunting trip.

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Music: \u201cBrightside of the Sun,\u201d by Basin and Range; \u201cCanto para Elewa y Chang\xf3,\u201d by Orishas; \u201cSmoke Alarm,\u201d by Carsie Blanton.

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