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In the early part of his HR career Jonathan Clarke quit a role because the CEO of the company told him never again to put  to put a gay candidate on a shortlist. He went on to work for PwC, the Department of Work & Pensions and is now the Human Resources Director at Kilburn & Strode LLP - European and UK Patent and Trade Mark Attorneys.

We talk about the best boss he's ever had, Jackie Gittins - PwC UK Head of HR at the time -  and what a powerful role model she was for him during his time at PwC. “I remember sitting in a big conference room and she was on stage addressing the whole of the HR function at PwC. She wouldn’t have known who I was at that point and I vividly remember sitting there thinking ‘you’re going to be my friend’. She was a very inspiring, authentic and honest human being and those were really attractive qualities to me so I sat at my table in that conference room and thought ‘how am I going to get noticed by you and how am I going to bring what I do into your world and how can I press you?.’ It took five years.”"

We talk about:

• 7:36 ROLE MODELS - "I saw her across a crowded conference room and thought 'I want to learn from you'."
  
  
• 11:25 CAREER TURNING POINT: A BOARDROOM IN TOKYO - getting an opportunity to work with Jackie in Tokyo and her thrusting him into the spotlight in front of board directors.
  
  
• 12:37 - PUBLIC SPEAKING "And that's how I learned to love public speaking."
  
  
• 14:41 - HELPING OTHERS SHINE - on how Jackie is endlessly looking for opportunities for others to shine.
  
  
• 16:09 THE NEXT GOAL - Jackie's relentless focus on helping her team find the 'next thing'
  
  
• 20:44 BURGLARY - when Jonathan's laptop was stolen and how Jackie responded...
  
  
• 22:21 TRUST- how brilliant bosses create trust.
  
  
• 32:48 WHAT MAKES YOUR TEAM TICK? Why this is such an important question for leaders to know the answer to.

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