Courage over Comfort with Vivianne Castillo

Published: April 22, 2021, 4 a.m.

Vivianne Castillo left counseling to become a UX researcher. What she found was an industry that talked a lot about empathy—but wasn’t very good at practicing it. Now she’s building a company dedicated to changing that.

Vivianne Castillo is a UX researcher, humanity in tech advocate, and founder of HmntyCntrd, a masterclass for people in UX and tech that was just named one of Fast Company’s most innovative companies of 2021. Vivianne uses her background in counseling and trauma to educate on and advocate for the trauma-informed workplace, empathy in the face of capitalism, and justice for all. At HmntyCntrd, she helps people from companies like Apple, Slack, and Spotify become advocates for equity and change in the tech industry. 

I think a lot of UX and design professionals can have this tendency of, "Well, if I don't do it, who will? If I don't advocate for this user, who will? If I don't care about this person who will?" And you know, I have just learned that it's not all on me, and that I can't save everyone or everything. And that is such a freeing gift to realize, and just step into the reality that it's not all on you.

—Vivianne Castillo, founder of HmntyCntrd

We talk about:

  • What it really means to be humanity-centered, and why that’s often missing in UX
  • How and why Vivianne developed the HmntyCntrd program
  • The various forms of trauma caused by work and how a workplace can become more trauma--informed
  • What it means to choose courage over comfort
  • Vivianne’s viral resignation letter from Salesforces, and how to identify when it’s time to leave a toxic work environment

Plus: in this week’s You’ve Got This, Sara talks steps for assessing when it might be time to leave a toxic work situation. Ask yourself: what are the costs of leaving? The costs of staying? What am I risking? If I stay, how can I set boundaries at work? For all this and more, head over to https://www.activevoicehq.com/podcast.

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