And we are back with a Happy Fathers Day episode dedicated to everyone whether they are a father or not. Unfortunately we encountered some audio problems for the first fifteen minutes so if it becomes unbearable please jump ahead. We discuss some comics and gifts we've received before jumping into our book club discussion about Michael Chabon's Kavalier & Clay. That led us into talking about the differences that make a book a good story or good art. Michael then jumps into several books he's recently read, Piers Anthony's Sos the Rope, James SA Corey's Tiamat's Wrath from the Expanse series, and William T. Vollmann's The Dying Grass. This naturally leads the guys into The Great British Baking Show and the Kid's Baking Championship, the History Channel's series Alone, ultimate fighting, the NBA, the joy of sports community, nerdiness, and fandom, and the story of Hank Gathers, Bo Kimble and Loyola Marymount's run at an NCAA basketball championship. And that's just the highlights! Enjoy the show and tell a friend. Also, check out our work in progress: https://143podcasts.com/save-the-world/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices