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Thirty episodes ago, I put out what I presented as the first of a two-part crossover. In it, I interviewed Jeff Wood, presenter of the Talking Headways podcast and owner of the San Francisco-based transport consultancy the Overhead Wire, about public transport in the US.

The plan was always to switch sides in part two, so that Jeff would this time interview me. We recorded that a few months ago - but because of some sound quality issues (you\\u2019ll see) I\\u2019ve only just got around to editing it.

Anyway: here it is. This time, Jeff bombards me with questions about urban government, devolution, housing, transport policy, and, inevitably, Brexit. As I said, some of the quality is, er, not great, for which I can only blame myself. But I hope, if you can make out my words, you enjoy at least some of them.

Happy Easter, everyone.

Skylines is the podcast from the New Statesman\\u2019s cities site, CityMetric. It\\u2019s hosted by Jonn Elledge.

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