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"F*ck nice people."

That was the first thing to come out of Bobby's mouth moments before this conversation...  at first, it might sound kind of mean, right? But when we put 'nice' under the microscope and compare it with it's much more authentic cousin 'kind' it doesn't take long to pick which one you want to be on the giving or receiving end of.

Amidst the idea of this topic our like-herding-cats style of focus took us on the usual rabbit holes of discussion... creating culture as a business & entrepreneur along with some snake and spider stories thrown in for good measure.

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