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John Roderick, the musician, talks to co-host Dan Benjamin about visiting Portland, his XOXO talk, sticking the landing, Flight 93, performing live, engineers vs. rock stars, learning by reading, squid overlords, and his walk across Europe.

Links for this episode:

• Chelsea Cain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
• United Airlines Flight 93 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
• #HEYSEATTLE: WHERE\\u2019S THE BEST PLACE TO GET OYSTERS IN SEATTLE? - YouTube
  
• John Roderick - Cinnamon (Live on KEXP) - YouTube
  
• John Roderick - Scared Straight (Live on KEXP) - YouTube
  
• Why Did Old Phone Numbers Start With Letters? | Mental Floss
  
• Telephone exchange names - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  

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