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John Roderick of Seattle sits down with Austinite Dan Benjamin to discuss the purchase of a police car, frisbee golf, the malaise years of the Carter Administration, Fox body Mustangs, visiting smelters at night, looking like a cop, the aquisition of an Apocalypse Vehicle, surprise nuclear attacks, EMPs, shortwave radios, Japanese holdouts, the artwork of WWI vets, complete ephemera, a quarter inch of gypsum, moustache quality, and albinism.