RIMS San Diego Chapter President Cheryl Berman

Published: March 19, 2024, 6:10 a.m.

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.

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As RISWORLD 2024 in sunny San Diego is just around the corner, I am delighted to welcome RIMS San Diego Chapter President Cheryl Berman to RIMScast. Cheryl is serving as Chapter President for the second time and has been a RIMS member since 1994. Sharing her background, Cheryl tells how she joined RIMS as she transitioned into the safety and workers\u2019 compensation field working for a drywall and plaster specialty contractor. We discuss workers\u2019 compensation, California\u2019s new SB 553, the CA Workplace Violence Prevention Plan, and the RIMS San Diego Chapter. The RIMS San Diego Chapter is presenting a webinar on the new regulation on March 28th.

Listen in for Cheryl\u2019s story of learning the risk management profession within the specialty contractor world.

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Key Takeaways:

[:01] About RIMS and RIMScast.

[:14] Public registration for RISKWORLD 2024 is now open. Explore infinite opportunities with RIMS from May 5th through May 8th, 2024, in San Diego, California. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD.

[:31] About today\u2019s EPISODE of RIMScast. Our guest is RIMS San Diego Chapter President Cheryl Berman. We\u2019ll talk about construction safety, risk, and RISKWORLD 2024.

[:53] The RIMS-CRMP is the only competency-based risk management credential. That matters because earning the certification shows employers and recruiters that you have the skills necessary to manage risk and create value for your organization.
[1:10] Several Exam Prep virtual workshops are coming up. On March 19th and 20th, this two-day course will be presented with PARIMA. The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Prep Virtual Workshop will be held from April 2nd through the 4th and led by Joe Mayo. Visit the certification page on RIMS.org for more information. A link is in these show notes.

[1:40] On March 20th at 9:00 a.m., Eastern, we have another informational session about Recertification: Keep Your RIMS-CRMP Active. I will be hosting that session, along with RIMS VP of Professional Development, Denise Osorio. If you have the CRMP and you don\u2019t want the credits to lapse, find out how to keep it active! The link is in the notes.

[2:06] As you know, RISKWORLD 2024 is coming up from May 5th through May 8th, 2024, in sunny San Diego, California. Registration is open at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and at the link in this episode\u2019s show notes. Register today!

[2:23] In Episode 276 of RIMScast we had opening keynote Peter Diamandis join us. Check out that episode for just a taste of what\u2019s in store for RISKWORLD 2024. The full roster of keynotes has been announced! I\u2019m so excited! We will be welcoming Academy Award actress, director, and activist, Marlee Matlin!

[2:47] For our industry keynote, we will be rejoined by Evan G. Greenberg, the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Chubb Limited and Chubb Group. That session will be sponsored by Chubb. Just announced, our closing keynote will be Daymond G. John. You know him from Shark Tank. He\u2019s also the CEO and Founder of FUBU. I\u2019m a big fan.

[3:11] I\u2019m so excited for that closing keynote on May 8th! It will be extremely high-energy! Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. We want to see you there!

[3:22] My guest today has spent decades in construction risk. This is her second presidency of the RIMS San Diego Chapter. She is Cheryl Berman and she is here to discuss her career, construction risk, and safety risk. She has some words of wisdom for anyone moving into the construction and risk space.

[3:46] San Diego is our host chapter for RISKWORLD 2024, so we\u2019ll be talking about that, as well. Cheryl Berman, RIMS San Diego Chapter President, welcome to RIMScast!

[4:30] Cheryl fell into risk management. She has always been in the building industry, starting in operations. She went from operations to asset protection, then to safety and workers\u2019 compensation. When her company was spun off, it became Cheryl\u2019s job to get insurance for the company. Nobody else at the company had insurance knowledge.

[5:25] That\u2019s how Cheryl\u2019s risk management career started. She joined RIMS at that time to become more knowledgeable about risk and insurance. That was in 1994. A RIMS member for 30 years!

[6:09] In 1994, RIMS met in person and had newsletters that came in the mail. There were committees, including Workers\u2019 Compensation, Insurance, Safety and Loss Control, and Legal Legislation. Besides monthly chapter meetings, committees met two or three times a year. There was a lot of personal interaction.

[7:10] Construction wasn't a RIMS topic at the start, but there were other people in the chapter with a background in construction so that helped.

[7:58] Brady West is Cheryl\u2019s employer. Brady West is a drywall contractor, including lathe and plaster and metal framing. It is a specialty contractor, not a general contractor. Brady West works primarily on commercial projects. Cheryl reviews contracts both upstream with clients and downstream with subcontractors.

[8:52] Cheryl is the whole Risk Group at Brady West. She\u2019s a department of one. She is used to it. In some roles, she has had HR and Payroll report to her but she was the only risk manager. In one company Cheryl worked for, things landed on her desk randomly. A trainee had been told, \u201cIf you don\u2019t know what to do with it, put it in Cheryl\u2019s in box\u201d!

[10:00] Workers\u2019 Compensation is probably the number one thing that happens in most construction companies. Construction injuries can cause drastic changes in someone\u2019s life or just require stitches and be done. When it changes a life, it is difficult. A claim is filed and it is hoped the worker will recover and return to work.

[11:47] California has a new Senate Bill for instituting a workplace violence prevention plan for any company that has an employee. Cheryl explains different issues that may come up at different locations, depending on the local population. The mandate takes effect on July 1, 2024. However, Cal OSHA has not come up with a final rule for plans.

[15:01] RIMS plug time! RIMS Virtual Workshops: Visit RIMS.org/virtualworkshops to see the full calendar. On March 27th and 28th, our good friend, Ken Baker, of Enterprise Risk Consulting, leads the two-day course, Fundamentals of Risk Management.

[15:24] Information about these workshops and others is on the RIMS Virtual Workshops page and a link to the full calendar is in this episode\u2019s notes. There are RISKWORLD 2024 pre-conference workshops held on May 4th and 5th. A link is in this episode\u2019s show notes.

[15:41] Topics include but are not limited to Applying and Integrating ERM, Fundamentals of Insurance, and a RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Workshop. Go to RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and then go to Learn and then Workshops. You will find it there.

[15:56] On March 21st, Zurich presents Fraud Attitude Shifts in the Industry. On March 28th, our friends at T\xdcV S\xdcD GRC will present Inflation and Property Valuation: Aligning Your Assets with Reality. On April 11th, Clara Analytics returns to present AI\u2019s Impact on Emerging Risk Management Trends.

[16:20] On April 18th, Hub International returns for the second installment of its Ready For Tomorrow Series, Challenging the Status Quo: Rethinking Your Casualty Risk Strategy. Visit RIMS.org/Webinars to learn more about these webinars and to register! Links are in the show notes. Webinar registration is complimentary for RIMS members.

[16:44] Our friends at FERMA encourage you to participate in its inaugural International Risk Managers Survey, open through March 2024 to risk professionals from the U.S., Latin America, Asia-Pacific, and Africa. It is produced in partnership with PwC France. The results will be distributed in October 2024. A link is in this episode\u2019s show notes.

[17:12] The RIMS San Diego Chapter on March 28th will host CA Workplace Violence Prevention Plan: Are You Ready for the New Regulation? That regulation is known as SB 553. A link to the RIMS San Diego Chapter event is in this episode\u2019s show notes.

[17:44] Cheryl\u2019s top priority in construction is workplace safety. In California, companies must have an injury and illness prevention plan. Cheryl has training prepared for all the tasks a worker would do. It\u2019s constantly being tweaked as different work and machinery come down the pike. It\u2019s reviewed as processes change; at the least, annually.

[19:22] In the three decades Cheryl has been in the profession, she believes more attention is paid now to risk management and safety. Awareness has improved.

[20:06] Cheryl\u2019s advice to anyone entering the construction field as a risk professional is to understand the operations side before dictating what safety is. Have some experience in understanding the pressures of the workers, to help them better. Cheryl\u2019s operations-side experience was helpful when she transferred to the administration side.

[20:43] Cheryl\u2019s experience told her what workers can do and what they struggle with.

[21:26] At the first company where Cheryl worked in the asset protection side, they knew her from her 15 years of experience in operations. When she transitioned to a new company, the person who hired her was her champion. Cheryl shares a workers\u2019 comp experience from that job that turned into a home run for her.

[23:51] The EEOC helped Cheryl get an outside sales position with very little experience so she worked hard to learn the trade. She worked only once briefly for someone who did not believe in her and she moved quickly to another job. She is very appreciative of the wonderful advocates and people who have helped her throughout her career.

[25:53] Justin noticed that the leadership of the RIMS San Diego Chapter is comprised almost entirely of women. They volunteer their time and are passionate about the profession and their careers. Cheryl says the chapter is fortunate to have some very capable people on the board.

[26:36] Cheryl tells about her time on the board, including two terms as president, first in 2002, and at present. She has been on the chapter board since 1995, with a five-year break. Her professional career grew parallel to her RIMS career.

[28:38] Cheryl leads by example showing that women can have a great career in risk management.

[29:37] Cheryl is very excited to have RISKWORLD 2024 in her home city of San Diego.

[30:15] The RIMS San Diego Chapter is planning a reception for RIMS staff, the board of directors, and RIMS past presidents on the Friday before RISKWORLD 2024 starts.

[31:02] Special thanks to RIMS San Diego Chapter President Cheryl Berman, for joining us here on RIMScast. Visit SanDiegoRIMS.org for more information. They have a fascinating session coming up on March 28th about SB 553 the CA Workplace Violence Prevention Plan. The link is in this episode\u2019s show notes.

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[32:44] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information.

[33:01] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today\u2019s risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more.

[33:17] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com, and check out the blog at RiskManagementMonitor.com. Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org.

[33:59] Thank you for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

RISKWORLD 2024 \u2014 San Diego, CA | May 5\u20138, 2024

RISKWORLD Pre-Conference Workshops

NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App

RIMS DEI Council

Spencer Educational Foundation \u2014 Grants Page

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS-CRMP Virtual Workshops

2024 International Risk Manager Survey conducted by FERMA in partnership with PwC FERMA

RIMS San Diego Chapter

RIMS San Diego Chapter Presents: CA Workplace Violence Prevention Plan | March 28, 2024

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RIMS Webinars:

Recertification: Keep Your RIMS-CRMP Active | Presented by RIMS | March 20, 2024

Fraud Attitude Shifts in the Industry | Sponsored by Zurich | March 21, 2024

Inflation and Property Valuation: Aligning Your Assets with Reality | Sponsored by TUV SUD GRC | March 28, 2024

AI\u2019s Impact on Emerging Risk Management Trends | Sponsored by Clara Analytics | April 11, 2024

Hub\u2019s \u201cReady for Tomorrow\u201d series: \u201cChallenging the Status Quo: Rethinking Your Casualty Risk Strategy\u201d | Sponsored by Hub International | April 18, 2024

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About our guest:

Cheryl Berman, RIMS San Diego Chapter President

Risk Manager at Brady West, Inc.

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Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use):

Getting insurance for the company landed on my desk because there wasn\u2019t anybody else in the company who knew anything about it. \u2014 Cheryl Berman

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In one of the companies I worked for, things would just land on my desk and I\u2019d ask \u201cWhy is this here?\u201d But I\u2019d figure it out and I\u2019d deal with it. \u2014 Cheryl Berman

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In California, companies must have an injury and illness prevention plan. \u2014 Cheryl Berman

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We are fortunate to have some very capable people on our RIMS San Diego Chapter board. \u2014 Cheryl Berman