#FoodInFeb: Food Insecurity and Risk with Daily Bread Food Bank CEO Neil Hetherington

Published: Feb. 13, 2024, 8:58 a.m.

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.

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Justin interviews guest Daily Bread Food Bank CEO Neil Hetherington about the Daily Bread Food Bank, the rapidly accelerating numbers of people with post-secondary education making use of food charity in Toronto, the causes of increasing food insecurity, statistics on food inequity in the context of systemic racism, and how legislative solutions are needed to restore equity in food security.


Listen in to learn more about how the culture of your organization can be applied to find solutions to food inequity in your community.

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[:38] About today\u2019s episode of RIMScast. We will be joined by Daily Bread Food Bank CEO Neil Hetherington. We will explore the intersection of risk and hunger.

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[2:52] My guest is Neil Hetherington, the CEO of the Daily Bread Food Bank in Toronto, Canada. I had the pleasure of meeting Neil at the ORIMS 2023 year-end luncheon and we had a nice conversation. Recently, The Daily Bread Food Bank released its \u201cWho\u2019s Hungry Report 2023\u201d so I thought this would be a great time to extend that dialog.

[3:25] We will discuss how food inequity can impact risk managers and the decisions that organizations need to make when hiring. Neil Hetherington, welcome to RIMScast!

[4:17] The Daily Bread Food Bank is Canada\u2019s largest food bank. It took 38 years to serve one million clients in Toronto in a single year. It took two years to serve two million in a year. In 2023, they served three million.

[4:47] There has been exponential growth in the number of individuals who are food insecure. As depressing as that has been, it\u2019s been a real joy working with a team that is firmly committed to a mission: What is going on that is requiring individuals to come to a food bank and how can we make a difference?

[5:16] In partnership, Daily Bread Food Bank and North York Harvest Food Bank have released Who\u2019s Hungry 2023 \u2014 an annual profile of food insecurity and poverty in Toronto. Some of the increase in food insecurity may be attributed to the pandemic. Before the pandemic, they were serving about 60,000 a month, holding steady.

[5:56] The pandemic happened and the number doubled to 120,000 a month. Then inflation happened and it went to 240,000 a month. In December 2023, it was closer to 300,000. Twelve thousand individuals in Toronto who had never used a food bank signed up for the first time. Unemployment is low but food bank usage is high.

[7:12] Food insecurity is rising in Canada, particularly in large cities where affordable housing is at a premium. In Canada, if you are on Disability, you live in poverty. Individuals who are working at two or three part-time jobs don\u2019t have health benefits or access to dental care. They are coming to food banks in the fastest-rising numbers.

[8:44] What can be done? Affordable housing helps individuals and employers who need workers close to jobs. It is good for legislative bodies to take care of the vulnerable. Individuals on disability should have an income that allows them to buy food. Employers should be given incentives to hire full-time employees with benefits to thrive.

[9:55] There\u2019s a link to the \u201cWho\u2019s Hungry 2023\u201d report in the show notes. The report says, \u201cSystemic racism produces deep inequities with respect to food insecurity in Canada.\u201d Black households are more than 3.5 times more likely, and Indigenous communities are 3 to 5 times more likely to be food insecure than White households.

[10:26] \u201cThese inequities stem from systemic discrimination that results in Black, Indigenous, and racialized communities facing barriers to education, employment, health care, and social services.\u201d How do we change that reality?

[10:55] What are the ways that we can ensure that, first of all, there is no food insecurity, everyone can thrive in the community, and everybody can live in simple, decent, affordable housing?

[11:13] Neil says we\u2019re pointing out the numbers, in terms of the inequity that is present, and giving legislatures across the country the opportunity to be able to deal and grapple with that problem.

[11:38] Neil discusses the changing profile of a client. Fifty-nine percent of individuals using food banks in the Toronto area have a post-secondary education. They\u2019ve gone to college. They\u2019ve done everything right. People with this level of education having to make use of food charity is obscene.

[12:40] The other changing demographic is individuals who are working but still have to rely on friends, family, and charity to get by.

[12:59] The report points to a number of recommendations for changing social policies.

[13:26] Neil says the report asks legislators to \u201cChange this, please, eh?\u201d It\u2019s an uphill battle. The Daily Bread food bank has a dual mission to feed the need now and talk to every level of government about the opportunity to walk back from the ledge we\u2019re on. Neil talks about recent and upcoming presentations of solutions to government leaders.

[15:34] The risk to a corporation is not having the right people. Are the employees able to feed their kids, is their mental health OK or do they have massive stressors that are not allowing them to focus on the task at hand? Neil works out an example where $50K is inadequate. Without nearby affordable housing, where will the workforce live?\xa0

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[20:46] Neil talks about the need to have donations year-round. After the holidays, the selves at food banks tend to get sparse. In July and August, kids are home from school and need to be fed. In July and August, the shelves are bare at the Food Bank. Those are difficult times. It\u2019s an opportunity for you to give back to the community!

[22:14] Justin suggests the hashtag #FoodInFebruary to get social awareness going.

[22:57] The pandemic was revealing to a lot of people who saw lines at food banks very soon. The shutdown happened in the third week of March and the lines started getting very long in April. That one acute shock to the system drove people to food charity.

[23:35]\xa0 It was clear there was a lack of resilience in the population across North America. That should be alarming for legislatures. The Daily Bread Food Bank works hard to raise awareness of food insecurity through media and social media, integrating their research with their food advocacy program.

[24:05] Letting donors know the opportunity to divest their wealth into something that will be fantastic for the community, not only feeding the need now but also looking into decreasing those lineups. How do we change the systemic policies that are resulting in individuals having to make use of a food bank?

[24:45] You can donate food to any food bank, and it\u2019s appreciated. It gives variety to what is distributed to individuals. Bring your company out to volunteer in a food bank. Donating funds allows them to purchase more food at a lower rate. Write a letter to any elected official asking them to tackle food insecurity in the best way they think possible.

[25:57] Everybody listening to this podcast, please have a conversation about this tonight with your family at dinner so we heighten awareness and so elected officials know that they are required to and have the authority to make good things happen.

[26:50] Any organization that is successful in North America has a detailed plan on how they are contributing to the community. Having an ESG strategy is important if you want younger employees to come to your firm. It\u2019s an opportunity for new emerging leaders. Neil quotes Bryan Stevenson \u2014 \u201cThe opposite of poverty is not wealth but justice.\u201d

[27:59] If you\u2019re an employer, a community leader, or an elected official, you have the opportunity to spread justice every single day through the work that you\u2019re doing and how you are developing the culture within your firm or organization.

[28:07] Neil Hetherington, it\u2019s been great to see you again. I\u2019m so glad that we had a chance to reconnect. \u201cWho\u2019s Hungry Report 2023: A Call to Action From a City in Crisis,\u201d is available right now, it\u2019s complimentary, and there\u2019s a link in this episode\u2019s show notes.\xa0

[28:51] Neil hopes people will visit fundthebenefit.ca and push the Canada Disability Benefit. \u201cThank you to everyone who is that positive changemaker!\u201d

[29:31] Special thanks again to Neil Hetherington of the Daily Bread Food Bank for joining us here today on RIMScast. A link to the Daily Bread Food Bank\u2019s site and to its \u201cWho\u2019s Hungry Report 2023\u201d is in this episode\u2019s show notes. Look for the hashtag, #FoodInFebruary. Let\u2019s be trendsetters and help people going through a hard time.

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About our guest


Neil Hetherington, Daily Bread Food Bank CEO

Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use):

There has been exponential growth in the number of individuals who are food insecure. As depressing as that is, it\u2019s a real joy working with a team that is firmly committed to a mission. What is going on that is requiring individuals to come to a food bank? \u2014 Neil Hetherington

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What are the ways that we can ensure that, first of all, there is no food insecurity, everyone can thrive in community, and everybody can live in simple, decent, affordable housing? Those are the questions. \u2014 Neil Hetherington

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\u201cThe opposite of poverty is not wealth but justice.\u201d \u2014 Bryan Stevenson, quoted by Neil Hetherington

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If you\u2019re an employer, a community leader, or an elected official, you have the opportunity to spread justice every single day through the work that you\u2019re doing and how you are developing the culture within your firm or organization. \u2014 Neil Hetherington