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As I continue to make connections and find people in my local area who are working on regenerative projects and supporting progress in Spain and the Iberian Peninsula, I\u2019ve been amazed at the talented, courageous, and inspiring people that I\u2019ve come into contact with. I\u2019ve already interviewed a few in recent episodes such as Sara Garcia, and Aline Moerbeke, and I\u2019m pleased to add another local badass to that list in today\u2019s conversation. For frequent listeners of this show, you\u2019ll remember that I\u2019ve been through the trainings from the Savory Institute and have integrated Holistic Management as a core practice both in the development of my own farm, and the support and services that I offer to clients. I\u2019ve also been working to connect with the larger holistic management network in Spain. There are now two Savory Hubs on the Peninsula. There\u2019s AleJab who operate mostly in the southwest and Portugal, and two years ago, Hub del Norte opened up based at Curly Creek Ranch in Navarra, the home base and farm of its founder Meghan Sapp. Meghan is the co-Hub leader for the Savory Network and an accredited Field Professional serving the northern Iberian Peninsula. She has practiced holistic management, together with her husband I\xf1igo, for more than six years on their farm, which recently became EOV verified. Meghan is also a founding farmer of the European Alliance for Regenerative Agriculture, a former negotiator for the UN Committee on Food Security and is part of many local farming and food sovereignty organizations. Meghan has spent more than 2 decades dedicated to the energy and food systems transition as a journalist, policy advocate, entrepreneur, community organizer and project developer as well. \nFor this episode, I had the rare pleasure of hosting Meghan at my own farm, even though we\u2019re in the middle of construction and the place is a disaster. She was passing through in between training events in my area of Catalunya, and I couldn\u2019t pass up the opportunity to show her what my partner Alba and I are working on. In this fun and literal fireside chat, Meghan tells her unique story about her journey from running multiple newspapers in California, all the way to farming in the Basque region of northern Spain and teaching holistic land management. We talk about the broad uses and case studies of holistic planning and decision making beyond livestock and farming, the journey of starting Hub del Norte and the work they\u2019ve been doing in the region, the challenges of lobbying for regenerative farm policy at the European Union level, and generally getting an insight into the life and work of someone dedicated to creating a transformation of the agrifood system.