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b'This week we feature Charlie Hodgson, head brewer at Brisbane\\u2019s Helios Brewing.\\n Apart from having a long and varied career to discuss, Charlie also has some thought provoking insights about the role of beer\\u2019s four key ingredients and how they play in the rapidly emerging style pantheon of modern craft brewing.\\n It\\u2019s a fascinating conversation that probes at where is the substance amidst rapid change and the consumer hype that drives much that we\\u2019re seeing in the industry at the moment.\\n No doubt it\\u2019s a chat that will provoke quite a few thoughts, and as always, we\\u2019d love to hear what you think.\\n Enjoy this conversation with Charlie Hodgson from Helios Brewing.\\n In the podcast we mentioned this chat with John Hoedemaker and Aaron Heary from Gage Roads.\\xa0\\n Our partners\\n Radio Brews News is proudly presented by Cryer Malt, who we are thrilled to announce are back supporting us for another year of conversations. With over 25 years in the field, Cryer Malt are dedicated to providing the finest brewing ingredients to help brewers create the foundations of a truly excellent beer. Your premium brewing partner - and our premium podcasting partner - Cryer Malt is proud sponsor of this conversion and the Radio Brews News channel.\\n Every guest on Beer is a Conversation receives a new piece of exclusive merch - a branded Yeti Rambler mug, thanks to our good friends at Yeti.\\xa0\\n If you like what we do at Radio Brews News you can help us out by:\\n Sponsoring the show\\n \\nReviewing us on iTunes\\xa0or your favourite podcasting service\\n Emailing us at\\xa0producer@brewsnews.com.au\\xa0to share your thoughts'