Beer is a Conversation: Scott McKinnon and Dereck Hales
b"This week Pete Mitcham shares two separate chats he had with Scott McKinnon from Wolf of the Willows and Dereck Hales from Bad Shepherd Brewing.\\n Scott and Dereck share a brewing facility in Melbourne\\u2019s south which is becoming more popular by the week and both brands are growing their audience with solid core ranges and innovative seasonals, as well as limited release brews. Both have just launched beers that lay claim to being Australian firsts. Pete spoke with Scott about a collaboration with the internationally recognised Lark Distillery in Tasmania then to Dereck about the brewery\\u2019s first all Victorian beer and discuss the possibility that it may trump another well-known local beer with similar claims.\\n Stay tuned at the end for a chat with recently inducted Advanced Cicerone Matt Marinich from Stomping Ground. He's the first Australian to achieve the title and discussed what lured him to the east coast and his philosophy behind staff training.\\n Enjoy this weeks beer conversations."