b"\\u201cI think what one of the things that's interesting to me is like when we think about what causes distress and a life that goes awry, there's so much attention to different causes, but the way that the story, or the diagnosis, or the treatment interacts with our identity, I think, is not thought about as much. Like, the way that the very intervention itself changes our sense of who we are feels like it gets neglected. There's this sense that, you know, the diagnosis is describing something that is always solid and real and less thought given to like, well, how does that diagnosis interact with a mind? And how does the mind change knowing that the mind has been characterized this way?\\u201d\\nYou might recognize Rachel Aviv\\u2019s name from The New Yorker, where she\\u2019s been a staff writer for a decade, covering subjects like medical ethics, psychiatry, criminal justice, and education. She\\u2019s been a finalist for the National Magazine Awards twice, and in 2022 she won one for profile writing. In 2022, she also published Strangers to Ourselves: Unsettled Minds and the Stories That Make Us, a recipient of the Whiting Creative Nonfiction Grant and named by The New York Times as one of the ten best books of the year. In It, Aviv tells the story of four people and the treatment they underwent\\u2014or not\\u2014for their mental illness. It\\u2019s a gorgeously told, layered exploration of all that we don\\u2019t know about the brain and the mind, and how various treatment modalities restructure our lives\\u2014including the stories we tell about who we are. Okay, let\\u2019s get to our conversation.\\n\\nMORE FROM RACHEL AVIV:\\nStrangers to Ourselves: Unsettled Minds and the Stories That Make Us\\nRead Rachel in The New Yorker\\nFollow Rachel on X\\n \\nTo learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy\\n \\n Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices"