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Dr. Carol Gilligan is an esteemed professor and developmental psychologist, who is the author of a landmark book called In a Different Voice\u2014a book that I talk about and write about all the time. Back in the \u201880s\u2014Gilligan is 87 now and still working\u2014she looked at all the research from the likes of Lawrence Kohlberg and Piaget and made a stunning and obvious realization: These developmental psychologist giants had only ever studied boys. Typically white, middle-class boys. In response, Gilligan did a study on girls and moral development, a groundbreaking look into how culture genders our response to the world: Gilligan found that for girls, morality is relational and rooted in care\u2014not so much law\u2014and that fear of separation from relationship encouraged these girls to stop saying what they know. She struggled to get this study published\u2014it was rejected multiple times\u2014and has since become the most requested reprint out of Harvard. It also became the subject of In a Different Voice, which has sold 500,000 copies\u2014unheard of in academic publishing. Everything that Carol Gilligan shares with us in this conversation is a revelation and also deeply resonant\u2014and something you will know to be true. Before I go, if you missed Niobe Way\u2019s episode from a few weeks ago, tune in to that next\u2014Niobe was Carol\u2019s student, and has done for boys what Carol has done for girls.\n\nMORE FROM CAROL GILLIGAN:\nIn a Different Voice\nIn a Human Voice\nWhy Does Patriarchy Persist?\nCarol Gilligan\u2019s Website\nNiobe Way\u2019s Episode: \u201cThe Critical Need for Deep Connection\u201d\n\nFROM MY NEWSLETTER:\n\u201cWhat Valley Girl\u2019s Tell Us\u201d\n\u201cWhat Are We \u2018Really, Actually\u201d Saying\n\u201cThe Achilles Heel of Women\u201d\xa0\n\u201cHow to Keep Caring\u201d\xa0\n\u201cWhy is it So Hard to Scream?\u201d\n\nEPISODES IN THE \u201cGROWING UP\u201d SERIES:\nNiobe Way, \u201cThe Critical Need for Deep Connection\u201d\nHarvey Karp, M.D., \u201dThe Long-Term Implication of Sleep\u201d\nCarissa Schumacher\n \nTo learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy\n \n Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices