On What We Can Become (Kate Bowler)
\u201cI\u2019m really hopeful that we're evolving past our very hyper individualistic understanding of like, my health, wealth and happiness is the great goal. And that we're trying to fold in a more collective, and I hope, generous sense that like our lives will require love. Our lives will require courage and interdependence, you know, and it's probably going to never fall along any of our demographic, political, religious, sociocultural dreams that advertising companies have for us, but instead it's gonna require a very collective sense of what can we become?\u201d\n\nIt is not without a dose of irony that professor Kate Bowler\u2014a prolific historian and author about the Prosperity Gospel\u2014was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer at the age of 35. After all, her work had revolved around parsing a spiritual point-of-view that if you were a good person, a good Christian, good things would invariably happen\u2026like wealth and health. From her diagnosis, she wrote a bestselling book: Everything Happens for a Reason\u2014and Other Lies I\u2019ve Loved and added an entirely new dimension to her scholarship at Duke. She\u2019s now in remission and the host of the Everything Happens podcast, and has written several more bestsellers, including books of devotionals like The Lives We Actually Have and Good Enough. In today\u2019s conversation, we covered a lot of ground\u2014the inherent goodness of people, when we rise to the occasion, and whether evil as an absolute exists. Okay, let\u2019s get to our conversation.\n\nMORE FROM KATE BOWLER:\nThe Everything Happens Podcast\nThe Lives We Actually Have\nNo Cure for Being Human\nEverything Happens for a Reason\u2014and Other Lies I\u2019ve Loved\nGood Enough\nKate Bowler\u2019s Website\nFollow Kate on Instagram\n \nTo learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy\n \n Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices