\u201cLook at how we've convoluted and complicated. The most simple things. Look at nutrition now. How many supplements are we supposed to take? How many grams of fat am I supposed to eat? And then grams of carbs, and then how many grams of sugar is taller? It's insane that we've managed because I think a lot of people don't believe stuff unless it sounds scientific or it's extremely complicated. But nature isn't that complicated. Like why do all of these cultures, the few that are around now, indigenous cultures, they don't have high blood pressure, they don't have heart disease, they don't have diabetes, they don't have anxiety, they don't have panic, they have all have straight teeth. They don't also have any big pharma. Uh, they don't have dentists. They don't need any of this stuff because they are living in an environment in which humans naturally evolved.You and I are not, we're living in an environment that is so different and it's no coincidence that the more we integrate back into nature, the better we get.\u201d\nSo says the brilliant\u2014and endlessly entertaining\u2014James Nestor, author of Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art. While Breath is a mega-bestseller\u2014across the globe, it\u2019s also an award-winning work of science reporting, stringing together seemingly disparate streams of thought and science into a treatise on one of the most significant impacts on our health: The way we learned to breathe. Yep, breathe. James makes the case that our tendency toward mouth-breathing works against our very nature, distorting our faces and jaws, ramping our anxiety, and weakening our immune response\u2026simply because our noses are designed to filter the world on our behalf. I loved our long-ranging conversation, and it was wonderful to be in James\u2019s company again. Let\u2019s get to our chat.\n\nMORE FROM JAMES NESTOR:\nBreath: The New Science of a Lost Art\nDeep: Freediving, Renegade Science, and What the Ocean Tells Us About Ourselves\nJames\u2019s Website\n \nTo learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy\n \n Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices