PT216 - Dr. Lynn Marie Morski - The Psychedelic Medicine Association
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In this episode, Joe interviews MD, attorney, host of the Plant Medicine podcast, and founder of the Psychedelic Medicine Association, Dr. Lynn Marie Morski.
She talks about her time working for the United States Department of Veteran Affairs and how her frustrations with not being able to recommend medicines she knew would help people led to her creating the Plant Medicine podcast, and how realizing that the podcast wasn\'t reaching enough doctors led to her creating the Psychedelic Medicine Association. She discusses their goal: to bring organizations, corporate entities, lawyers, and practitioners/therapists (really anyone in the medical field responsible for the wellbeing of another) together through forums and newsletters to bridge the enormous gap between those on the cutting edge of new medicines and modalities of healing and the more traditional doctors who don\'t know nearly enough about this emerging world.
She talks about her podcast and dedicating 4 full episodes to each drug, common misconceptions about doctors and healthcare, what it\'s like to be both a doctor and a lawyer, doctors who judge patients for using cannabis and the disservice that is, the complications of what comes after the FDA approves a drug, what\\u2019s necessary for getting psychedelics more into mainstream culture, and the silver lining that could come from COVID and COVID-related trauma.
Notable Quotes
\\u201cIt should not be weighing job security vs. saving veterans\\u2019 lives, but that\\u2019s really the position a lot of us are put in, and I couldn\\u2019t take that anymore, and so I left the VA and made it my mission to undo the years of silence by speaking out a whole lot about it.\\u201d
\\u201cFDA approval, for example, of MDMA or psilocybin, is just step 1. What do you do when you\\u2019ve got a medicine now approved that doctors are afraid to recommend or prescribe because it came out of nowhere? They\\u2019re like, \\u2018Whoa, psychedelics were Schedule I and extremely dangerous and \\u2018Don\\u2019t do drugs!\\u2019 and now I\\u2019m supposed to be giving it to a patient?\\u2019 That is a barrier.\\u201d
\\u201cWe\\u2019ve known about the 22 veteran suicides, and somehow, still, things haven\\u2019t gotten done in mental health. Maybe because, again, that\\u2019s \\u2018other.\\u2019 We have this whole issue with others, right? \\u2018That\\u2019s happening to these other people over here.\\u2019 The pandemic is one of the first things in... ever that has happened to everybody. It\\u2019s not \\u2018Oh, only the poor get this.\\u2019 Nope. Poor and rich. Tom Hanks got it right off the bat. Everybody\\u2019s getting it. Prime Ministers get it. And a lot of people are suffering the same mental health issues from the quarantine and so, it\\u2019s no longer where we can say \\u2018Oh, mental health struggles are for others.\\u2019 This has hit everybody. ...The suicide rate is rising for everybody. Mental health issues are rising for everybody. Is this the tipping point where the mental health system looks around and says \\u2018Ok, our tools aren\\u2019t sufficient. Can we start looking at these other modalities, including psychedelics, because we\\u2019ve got a second epidemic on our hands here?\\u2019\\u201d
\\u201cIt should be absolutely crucial for anybody on the front lines of patient care to know at least the basics of these medicines. We\\u2019re not trying to get doctors to all want to do psychedelic medicine at all. That\\u2019s not our goal. If people learn about it and get excited and want to get trained and do that? Fantastic. But we just want a basic level of knowledge, and like you said, if just 20% of doctors knew, that\\u2019d be great. And then those doctors can talk to their colleagues in other areas. But that\\u2019s essentially the way that we\\u2019re impressing it on people: \\u2018This is coming. You, as a professional responsible for other people\\u2019s health need to educate yourself on this.\\u2019\\u201d
Links
Psychedelicmedicineassociation.org
Psychedelic Medicine Association twitter
Plant Medicine Podcast: Microdosing Q&A with James Fadiman
Psychedelics Today: Spiritual Emergence or Psychosis course
Plant Parenthood podcast with Dr. Lynn Marie Morski
About Dr. Lynn Marie Morski
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