David Wilson

Published: April 28, 2019, noon

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David Wilson has spent his life working with violent men \\u2013 particularly those who have committed murder and serial murder. Currently Emeritus Professor of Criminology at Birmingham City University and a campaigner for penal reform, he spent much of his career working in a series of prisons and young offender institutions, dealing with some of our most notorious murderers - including Dennis Nilsen.

He has made memorable television programmes including the award-winning 'Interview with a Murderer'. And he\\u2019s written sixteen books, the latest being My Life With Murderers: Behind Bars with the World\\u2019s Most Violent Men.

David tells Michael Berkeley about the huge challenges of becoming Britain\\u2019s youngest prison governor at the age of 29, his many encounters with the serial killer Dennis Nilsen, and his pioneering approach to rehabilitating violent offenders.

He chooses a song from the jazz trumpeter and singer Chet Baker \\u2013 sadly no stranger to prison himself \\u2013 and music by Bernstein and Copland that reminds him of his time as a student in America.

He talks movingly about family love and music being vital to coping with a career spent dealing with violence and murder. With the exception of Schubert\\u2019s Death and the Maiden quartet, all of David\\u2019s music is about love rather than death, including Sibelius\\u2019 Andante Festivo, chosen for his daughter, and music from the film Love Actually for his wife.

Producer: Jane Greenwood\\nA Loftus production for BBC Radio 3

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