b'It would be easy to look at the House of Representatives and assume that the members of the Freedom Caucus \\u2014 and not Speaker Kevin McCarthy \\u2014 are the ones who are actually in charge. But is that actually true? \\n\\nOn this week\\u2019s episode of Playbook Deep Dive, host and Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza talks with one of the top House moderates, Ohio Congressman Dave Joyce. Joyce is the Chairman of the Republican Governance Group, the pre-eminent faction for GOP centrists; and he\\u2019s also a senior appropriator, which means he\\u2019s one of the people who has to figure out how to avoid the possible government shutdown lurking at the end of the month.\\n\\nRyan caught-up with Joyce in his Washington office to learn how the Republicans you don\\u2019t see quoted on Breitbart are approaching the tumultuous issues gripping the lower chamber. \\n\\nThey talked at length about the rationale behind McCarthy\\u2019s new impeachment gambit; if and how the Speaker can claw together the votes to avoid a government shutdown; the odds that McCarthy will face a vote to remove him as Speaker; and what it\\u2019s really like in private between Joyce and members of the Freedom Caucus he battles in public.'