Meet the pollster who is getting under the Democrats skin
Mark Penn is best known for two things: his devotion to centrist politics and his former role as the top pollster and strategist for Bill and Hillary Clinton. Lately, he\u2019s added a third: a barrage of polls that show a large majority of Americans are crying out for an alternative to Trump and Biden.\xa0\nOn this episode of Deep Dive, he talks with host and Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza about his relationship (or lack thereof) with No Labels \u2013 a group promoting a third-party candidacy \u2013 the recent GOP primary results, his controversial polls, and why he thinks that Nikki Haley may still have a big role to play in this year\u2019s election.\nRyan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Mark Penn is the CEO of Stagwell and former Clinton strategist.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.\xa0Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices