Dr. Tyler Kokjohn, Professor of Microbiology at Midwestern University and Project Core researcher, joins Jeff & Jer to talk about the latest developments in sci tech that will once and for all tell us whether there are alien hybrids, starseed, and Indigo children among us. Also, he talks about his time at his first UFO conference over the weekend, the UFO Congress in Arizona. But most intriguingly, he speaks candidly about his being a reformed debunker and gives us some real insights into the mind of the nasty, noisy negativists, as Stan Friedman is fond of saying. That, and a whole lot more including the limits of science, the near death experience, the mysteries of consciousness, and helping Jeff gather evidence from his paranormal encounters. That's a lot of description because there's a lot here on this special, extensive interview!