Donald Trump has said journalist Maggie Haberman is like his \u201cpsychiatrist\u201d \u2014 a remark she dismisses as a meaningless and failed attempt at flattery. Yet Haberman does have a deep understanding of what makes the former president tick, cultivated through years of covering City Hall in New York City and then Donald J. Trump for The New York Times. Her recent book, \u201cConfidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America,\u201d tells Trump\u2019s origin story and chronicles his unexpected takeover of the Republican party and his consolidation of power in Washington. \u201cHe\u2019s not a political genius,\u201d Haberman tells Kara, \u201che is a genius about human emotions and a certain darkness in what animates people.\u201d So will Trump run again in 2024? Haberman says that \u201che\u2019s backed himself into a corner where he has to,\u201d but she\u2019s not sure whether she'll be covering him.\nBefore the interview, Kara and Nayeema talk about the newsmakers: Elon Musk\u2019s about-face on the Twitter deal and Peter Thiel\u2019s financing foray into key Senate races and ... a conservative dating app.\nYou can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema.\xa0\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices