Kara on Elon and John Legend on Kanye (and More!)
b'Kara and Nayeema kick off this Thursday\\u2019s episode with a feisty discussion about Elon Musk\\u2019s Twitter and how he\\u2019s \\u201ckicking the most active users in the teeth.\\u201d They give us the run-down inside Elon\\u2019s band of merry advisors and Nayeema gets to the heart of why exactly Kara is so angry with Elon \\u2026 and so sad.\\n\\nToday\\u2019s interview is with John Legend, the Emmy, Grammy, Oscar and Tony-winning artist (aka EGOT) who famously moonlights as a social justice activist. But before he was John Legend, he was John Roger Stephens: born to a socially conservative family, sent to an Ivy League university at age 16, and dabbling as a nerdy strategy consultant before his big break. In fact, the first person to credit him as \\u201cJohn Legend\\u201d was Kanye West. In this conversation, Kara and John speak about Kanye\\u2019s descent into antisemitism and how he makes sense of a friend he\\u2019s long last touch with. They also discuss how TikTok has changed the music business, and why John is so hyper-focused on politics and down-ballot midterm races (no, the artist has no plans to run for political office \\u2013 he\\u2019s just downright worried about the country).\\n\\nTrigger warning: Kara does not hold back on her anger about Twitter and Elon these days, especially at the very end \\u2013 so make sure you stay tuned for her final choice words ... or, as she calls it, her \\u201crant!\\u201d\\xa0\\n\\nDisclosure: John Legend is on the board of directors at Vox Media. This did not change the nature of\\xa0our interview. In fact, Kara started with what were probably the hardest questions for him.\\n\\nYou can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema.\\xa0\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'