At first blush, the successful, suburban moms in Southlake, Texas who helped kick off the anti-CRT/anti-DEI movement animating school board fights across the country have little in common with the young, self-described losers and incels who make up much of the alt-right. In fact, both are far-right extremist groups that are obsessed with race, trans people, and not surprisingly, Donald Trump \u2014 and they occasionally collaborate.\xa0\xa0\n\nKara talks to Elle Reeve, author of \u201cBlack Pill: How I Witnessed the Darkest Corners of the Internet Come to Life, Poison Society, and Capture American Politics\u201d and a CNN correspondent, and Mike Hixenbaugh, author of \u201cThey Came For the Schools\u201d and senior reporter for NBC News, to break down the parallels and contrasts between the two groups.\xa0\n\nQuestions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find Kara on Instagram/Threads as @karaswisher\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices