b'Scott Atran is director of research at the National Center for Scientific Research in Paris, visiting professor at the University of Michigan, senior fellow at Harris Manchester College of Oxford University and research professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice of the City University of New York. He\\u2019s the author of \\u201cTalking to the Enemy: Faith, Brotherhood and the (Un)Making of Terrorists.\\u201d This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode \\u201cScott Atran \\u2014 Hopes and Dreams in a World of Fear.\\u201d Find more at onbeing.org.'