An exuberant experience of conversation and singing. There are nearly 5,000 spirituals in existence. Their organizing concept is not the melody of Europe, but the rhythm of Africa. They were composed by slaves, bards whose names we will never know, and yet gave rise to gospel, jazz, blues, and hip-hop. Joe Carter lived and breathed the universal appeal and hidden stories, meanings, and hope in what were originally called \u201csorrow songs.\u201d This was one of our first weekly shows, and it\u2019s still one of our most beloved. This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode \u201cJoe Carter \u2014 The Spirituals.\u201d Find more at onbeing.org.