[Unedited] Jane Hirshfield with Krista Tippett
b'The esteemed writer Jane Hirshfield has been a Zen monk and a visiting artist among neuroscientists. She has said this: \\u201cIt\\u2019s my nature to question, to look at the opposite side. I believe that the best writing also does this \\u2026 It tells us that where there is sorrow, there will be joy; where there is joy, there will be sorrow \\u2026 The acknowledgement of the fully complex scope of being is why good art thrills \\u2026 Acknowledging the fullness of things,\\u201d she insists, \\u201cis our human task.\\u201d And that\\u2019s the ground Krista meanders with Jane Hirshfield in this conversation: the fullness of things \\u2014 through the interplay of Zen and science, poetry and ecology \\u2014 in her life and writing.'