[Unedited] Desmond Tutu with Krista Tippett
b"The remarkable Archbishop Emeritus of Cape Town and Nobel Laureate died in the closing days of 2021. He helped galvanize South Africa's improbably peaceful transition from apartheid to democracy. He was a leader in the religious drama that transfigured South African Christianity. And he continued to engage conflict well into his retirement, in his own country and in the global Anglican communion. Krista explored all of these things with him in this warm, soaring 2010 conversation \\u2014 and how Desmond Tutu's understanding of God and humanity unfolded through the history he helped to shape."