[Unedited] Claudia Rankine with Krista Tippett
b'The poet, essayist, and playwright Claudia Rankine says every conversation about race doesn\\u2019t need to be about racism. But she says all of us \\u2014 and especially white people \\u2014 need to find a way to talk about it, even when it gets uncomfortable. Her bestselling book, \\u201cCitizen: An American Lyric,\\u201d catalogued the painful daily experiences of lived racism for people of color. Claudia models how it\\u2019s possible to bring that reality into the open \\u2014 not to fight, but to draw closer. And she shows how we can do this with everyone, from our intimate friends to strangers on airplanes.\\nClaudia Rankine is the Frederick Iseman Professor of Poetry at Yale University and founder of The Racial Imaginary Institute. She is the author of five collections of poetry including \\u201cDon\\u2019t Let Me Be Lonely.\\u201d Her plays include \\u201cThe Provenance of Beauty\\u201d and \\u201cThe White Card.\\u201d\\nThis interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode \\u201cClaudia Rankine \\u2014 How Can I Say This so We Can Stay in This Car Together?\\u201d Find more at onbeing.org.'