[Unedited] America Ferrera and John Paul Lederach with Krista Tippett
b'\\u201cOur discomfort and our grappling is not a sign of failure,\\u201d America Ferrera says, \\u201cit\\u2019s a sign that we\\u2019re living at the edge of our imaginations.\\u201d She is a culture-shifting actor and artist. John Paul Lederach is one of our greatest living architects of social transformation. From the inaugural On Being Gathering, a revelatory, joyous exploration of the ingredients of social courage and how change really happens in generational time. This interview originally aired in June 2018.'