"She's as much a lunatic as him"
b'While NATO leaders gather in Madrid, Nick speaks to Defence secretary, Ben Wallace live from the summit as the PM urges allies to \\u201cdig deep\\u201d and prepare for a more dangerous decade ahead. Also, Shadow levelling up secretary, Lisa Nandy talks to Nick as The Labour Party warns of a \\u201cperfect storm on the horizon\\u201d as local services struggle to cope with rising costs.'