As a row over regional coronavirus restrictions gets heated in England, is it time for a national \u2018circuitbreaker\u2019 lockdown?
Professor Sir Jeremy Farrar thinks so - he sits on SAGE and directs the Wellcome Trust, and tells Adam and Fergus that without a three week national lockdown, winter could be a bumpy ride.
Chris and Laura are back, too, to discuss the fallout in Westminster from these regional rows - and to explain what to make of Dame Louise Casey\u2019s warning about large scale post-pandemic destitution.
Katya reunites the Brexitcast crew with the latest on EU trade talks.
And Chris Mason\u2019s outro hangs in the balance - as we finally decide whether to ooze it or lose it.
Studio Director: Andy Mills\nProducers: Sej Asar, Frankie Tobi, Ben Weisz, Alix Pickles\nEditor: Dino Sofos