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Dolen Perkins-Valdez, the New York Times bestselling author of Wench, joins Zibby to discuss her latest novel, Take My Hand, which grapples with the painful history of eugenics and coerced sterilization in America. Dolen shares what inspired her to write a fictionalized version of what happened to the Relf sisters, what she hopes the story will add to the current conversation surrounding reproductive rights, and what her writing process has looked like since the pandemic. The two also talk about the need for more writers\' retreats, and what Dolen is working on next.

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