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"I think that we tell these stories to put it in the record, to honor these people, to showcase them for who they really are." Zibby is joined by former New York Times writer and editor Cate Doty to discuss their shared obsession with the NYT\'s Vows section (which Cate began her career writing for), as well as what drove Cate to initially become a journalist and what her thoughts on marriage are today.

Purchase Cate\'s book on Amazon or Bookshop:

Amazon: https://amzn.to/32Vkz7L

Bookshop: https://bit.ly/2SbFaCN

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