80. Anne Lamott and Neal Allen: Conversation for Shapes of Truth: Discover God Inside of You

Published: July 29, 2021, 1 p.m.

"When that first object that represents the truth of the belief that I have an emotional issue dissipates or disappears from me, I fall into exactly the state of being that Buddhists call equanimity. That state of contentment and self satisfaction that needs nothing at the moment. I don\u2019t just get respite from my emotional issue that I happen to be looking at. I got respite from everything for you know a matter of minutes or hours, or it might stretch a little longer.

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And the more times I do it, or the more often that kind of respite can enter into it. Because eventually once I\u2019ve done this 20, 30, 100 times it varies from person to person- I start to believe oh, that\u2019s who I am. I\u2019m not the voice up in my head. I\u2019m actually this collection of body objects that\u2019s \u2014 neither is who I actually am. But this one is telling the truth all the time."

Special Guest: Anne Lamott.

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