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Kyle Pope is editor and publisher of the Columbia Journalism Review - an essential publication for journalists, and respected watchdog of the press. Starting out as an editor at The Wall Street Journal, Kyle then moved to The New York Observer as editor-in-chief, joining CJR in 2016. In this in-depth interview, he recalls his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee, where he argued that Congress had \\u201cfailed to stand up for press freedom\\u201d whilst \\u201cunder attack\\u201d from President Trump; shares his perspective on the role Covid-19 has played in reinforcing the need for a local press - as \\u201cgranular information became a matter of life or death;\\u201d and questions whether it\\u2019s possible for a Biden White House to normalise relations with the media, noting the damage caused by Trump may well be \\u201cirrecoverable.\\u201d