Kyle Pope is editor and publisher of the Columbia Journalism Review - an essential publication for journalists, and respected watchdog of the press. Starting out as an editor at The Wall Street Journal, Kyle then moved to The New York Observer as editor-in-chief, joining CJR in 2016. In this in-depth interview, he recalls his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee, where he argued that Congress had \u201cfailed to stand up for press freedom\u201d whilst \u201cunder attack\u201d from President Trump; shares his perspective on the role Covid-19 has played in reinforcing the need for a local press - as \u201cgranular information became a matter of life or death;\u201d and questions whether it\u2019s possible for a Biden White House to normalise relations with the media, noting the damage caused by Trump may well be \u201cirrecoverable.\u201d